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The time is now
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I thought it was happening by now.
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weback
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Not truePba will just take your money and say suck it up butter cup. Ask anyone at tpd that when it comes down to a fight they bow to the city.
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Sunny
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False information buddy. It wouldn’t be a union like TPD. Not even close. More of a simple contract negotiation so the people have a better shot than the current shit show.Pba will just take your money and say suck it up butter cup. Ask anyone at tpd that when it comes down to a fight they bow to the city.
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X1837
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I thought it was happening by now.
It’s happening. Props to whoever got the ball rolling
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Union Man
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Your union board would be comprised of your own deputies...so you're right, it would not be like TPDs.
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Night Stick
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Think big, not small. The union will have the attorneys, CPA’s, and resources to expose the sheriff’s office’s spending to the media. That is their leverage. Deputies can’t stop working to protest and Florida has no binding arbitration, but the union can go to the media with documents and ask why the budget so high and spending doesn’t make sense. The union is the only thing deputies and detectives will have that will, at least, listen and, at least try to, take action. An exorbitant budget, irresponsible spending, an extremely top heavy command structure, huge HCSO charity bonuses to certain high rank people that have a history of filing for bankruptcy, business connections to the DeBartollos. All while deputy and detective pay has barely increased in years when compared to the cost of living and surrounding department pay. This county is in the Top 2-4 in population in the state yet bottom ten in officer to citizen ratio when compared to other 67 counties. Yes, you need a union. Even if it doesn’t fix anything. At a minimum, to at least not make it harder for your leaders to keep playing their games. If the HCSO doesn’t want a union, then that’s your confirmation that one is needed.
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Hugo Stiglitz
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No union will turn a job into a paradise. Sure a bad employee’s job may be saved here and there. The big picture is that things have gotten so blatantly out of hand and off balance that any union, hell anyone that is willing to speak up, can call out what is going on. How is somebody with bankruptcy’s in his record managing the agency’s finances and collecting two salaries while the budget is the highest it’s ever been and low level staffing is the lowest it’s ever been? Comment staff are unloaded of responsibilities in the name of county growth. Example: District majors no longer have to deal with property crime detectives. Two chiefs now to share the load. An entire undersheriff. Meanwhile deputy pay and staffing levels are at an all time low. Zones remain open. Squads are critically short. Detectives are buried in cases. A union is needed to speak for deputies and detectives.
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Wake Up Call
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WOW!!!No union will turn a job into a paradise. Sure a bad employee’s job may be saved here and there. The big picture is that things have gotten so blatantly out of hand and off balance that any union, hell anyone that is willing to speak up, can call out what is going on. How is somebody with bankruptcy’s in his record managing the agency’s finances and collecting two salaries while the budget is the highest it’s ever been and low level staffing is the lowest it’s ever been? Comment staff are unloaded of responsibilities in the name of county growth. Example: District majors no longer have to deal with property crime detectives. Two chiefs now to share the load. An entire undersheriff. Meanwhile deputy pay and staffing levels are at an all time low. Zones remain open. Squads are critically short. Detectives are buried in cases. A union is needed to speak for deputies and detectives.
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Anonymoose
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This is what we need. Accountability at the top. The corruption and nepotism is rampant. Not to mention all the command staff are cut throat, constantly trying to undermine each other.Think big, not small. The union will have the attorneys, CPA’s, and resources to expose the sheriff’s office’s spending to the media. That is their leverage. Deputies can’t stop working to protest and Florida has no binding arbitration, but the union can go to the media with documents and ask why the budget so high and spending doesn’t make sense. The union is the only thing deputies and detectives will have that will, at least, listen and, at least try to, take action. An exorbitant budget, irresponsible spending, an extremely top heavy command structure, huge HCSO charity bonuses to certain high rank people that have a history of filing for bankruptcy, business connections to the DeBartollos. All while deputy and detective pay has barely increased in years when compared to the cost of living and surrounding department pay. This county is in the Top 2-4 in population in the state yet bottom ten in officer to citizen ratio when compared to other 67 counties. Yes, you need a union. Even if it doesn’t fix anything. At a minimum, to at least not make it harder for your leaders to keep playing their games. If the HCSO doesn’t want a union, then that’s your confirmation that one is needed.
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EmersonBiguns
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Accountability will never be at the top with Chronister in chargeThis is what we need. Accountability at the top. The corruption and nepotism is rampant. Not to mention all the command staff are cut throat, constantly trying to undermine each other.
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V885
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The men and women of HCSO need to stop waiting and hoping that leadership will suddenly do the right thing. Time and time again, leadership has shown that meaningful change is not coming from the top. Many of us who do the actual work continue to be treated far worse than our peers elsewhere. We keep hearing promises that things will improve, that changes are coming, yet nothing truly changes and the same cycle continues.
At some point, we have to recognize that complaining among ourselves is not enough. If we want things to improve, we have to be willing to take action together instead of hoping someone else will do it for us.
Every deputy to sergeant should take the simple step of obtaining a blue card, signing it and mailing it in. If you do not have a card and do not want to ask another deputy, request one directly from the PBA. They will send you one. There is no reason for things to continue down the current path.
The process itself is simple. What matters is that we stand united and rebuild trust among one another. There may be challenges along the way, but it is hard to imagine things being worse than the situation we are dealing with now.
We cannot continue operating like this. The problems within this agency are real, they are damaging morale, trust and the future of this office. We have the ability to make this place better, but it requires each of us to take a small but meaningful step by signing a blue card.
Enough waiting. Enough procrastinating. The time to stand together and act is now.
At some point, we have to recognize that complaining among ourselves is not enough. If we want things to improve, we have to be willing to take action together instead of hoping someone else will do it for us.
Every deputy to sergeant should take the simple step of obtaining a blue card, signing it and mailing it in. If you do not have a card and do not want to ask another deputy, request one directly from the PBA. They will send you one. There is no reason for things to continue down the current path.
The process itself is simple. What matters is that we stand united and rebuild trust among one another. There may be challenges along the way, but it is hard to imagine things being worse than the situation we are dealing with now.
We cannot continue operating like this. The problems within this agency are real, they are damaging morale, trust and the future of this office. We have the ability to make this place better, but it requires each of us to take a small but meaningful step by signing a blue card.
Enough waiting. Enough procrastinating. The time to stand together and act is now.
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Hugo Stiglitz
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The men and women of HCSO need to stop waiting and hoping that leadership will suddenly do the right thing. Time and time again, leadership has shown that meaningful change is not coming from the top. Many of us who do the actual work continue to be treated far worse than our peers elsewhere. We keep hearing promises that things will improve, that changes are coming, yet nothing truly changes and the same cycle continues.
At some point, we have to recognize that complaining among ourselves is not enough. If we want things to improve, we have to be willing to take action together instead of hoping someone else will do it for us.
Every deputy to sergeant should take the simple step of obtaining a blue card, signing it and mailing it in. If you do not have a card and do not want to ask another deputy, request one directly from the PBA. They will send you one. There is no reason for things to continue down the current path.
The process itself is simple. What matters is that we stand united and rebuild trust among one another. There may be challenges along the way, but it is hard to imagine things being worse than the situation we are dealing with now.
We cannot continue operating like this. The problems within this agency are real, they are damaging morale, trust and the future of this office. We have the ability to make this place better, but it requires each of us to take a small but meaningful step by signing a blue card.
Enough waiting. Enough procrastinating. The time to stand together and act is now.
People calling 911 with no answer. 45 minutes on hold for non emergency calls. District desks made to act as non emergency call overflow. Street quads with less than 4 deputies. More cheating and time card fudging scandals in HSD. All while they push us harder and harder without realizing that we are barely getting by!
We need a union. All their spending needs to be doxed. An analysis of the officer to citizen ratio needs to be looked at.
We need an entity strong enough to do that and to speak for us. Maybe take these matters to the media.
How long can this continue?
We need a union!
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Hugo Stiglitz
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FYI, the rumors that the PBA has enough votes are not true. Send those cards in. Spread the word. Pass them out. Brass or brass brown nosers spreading bad info so people don’t think they need to send them in.
Well maybe it changed. But ask some at tpd what happens. Sure some might have possitive results, ih yeah after they hired their own atty and got their jobs back.False information buddy. It wouldn’t be a union like TPD. Not even close. More of a simple contract negotiation so the people have a better shot than the current shit show.
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Hugo Stiglitz
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No union is perfect. Sometimes even not necessary. However, what the HCSO has been is so blatant, so unchecked, so egregious, that we need a union now.
I’m sure there are situation where unions may have saved the job of a bad employee here and there. But voting NO for a union for that reason is like saying, there should be no police because one may shoot you one day.
There is something wrong with the HCSO. Something is not right. It’s something having to do with the budget, the spending, the sheriffs connections to these million dollar companies. Our low staffing and ridiculous pay grade shows this. Our morale shows this. By “our” I mean the once doing the primary jobs. The actual first responders. There is a divide at the HCSO.
There are many riding the gravy train making a lot of money. I’m not talking about them. The union is for US.
We need an outside entity to come and look into the big things and sting enough to expose them.
I’m sure there are situation where unions may have saved the job of a bad employee here and there. But voting NO for a union for that reason is like saying, there should be no police because one may shoot you one day.
There is something wrong with the HCSO. Something is not right. It’s something having to do with the budget, the spending, the sheriffs connections to these million dollar companies. Our low staffing and ridiculous pay grade shows this. Our morale shows this. By “our” I mean the once doing the primary jobs. The actual first responders. There is a divide at the HCSO.
There are many riding the gravy train making a lot of money. I’m not talking about them. The union is for US.
We need an outside entity to come and look into the big things and sting enough to expose them.
Agree HCSO needs some one on their side. Ive watch sheriff after sheriff screw deputy after deputy. But im just not sure if pba is that answer. And yes im a member of the pba. And yes ive seen and hear wel if ypu dont like it theres the door resign. Kinda sounds like a few past sheriffs i knew.